At the third time of asking this time round, Villa finally banked their first point. And this summer was clearly far more turbulent than almost any other in recent memory.
The game played out as one might have expected. A promoted side with a defensive orientation sat low, content to let a reconstituted Villa dither round the edges while looking to hit on the counter or via set pieces. And Villa squandered a handful of good chances before Hull tried to steal it at the end. Emi Buendia and John McGinn will probably be thinking about how they could’ve opened Villa’s account, but it was just that kind of day, in the end.
From Emery’s evident frustration on the touchline to every supporter’s and pundit’s takes, Villa simply weren’t quick or bold enough. There were chances and some tidy passages, but for too long Villa just passed around the perimeter with several players handing responsibility to someone else to make something happen.
That said, Villa were also fairly sound and executed Emery’s system, albeit without the required urgency. Villa seemed a bit timid as the pressure again was no doubt rising in their minds but now minus more than half the Europa League final side. That was a fair amount of composure and experience that walked out the door.
For me, the biggest issue (which I pointed out to no one in particular but later had seconded for me by Lee Dixon) was that Ross Barkley seemed unwilling to force the issue despite seeing so much of the ball. Kamara will have the occasional perfect ball in him, but he’s the scrapper and you’d look to Barkley to be the creative one of the pair. Ross wasn’t alone, though, and several willing runners were overlooked by Cash and others. As I noted at the time, it was a game crying out for Youri. Ross seemed much more dynamic against Arsenal, but they also try to play football so there was more space to run into.
And that’s mainly what stuck with me, a frustrated Emery mocking his own bench’s inability to show urgency, and a side that seemed more interested in not losing.
Given we never usually know what the instructions are it’s hard to know just what goes on sometimes. For example, in his post-match comments Emery referenced being careful with counters and managing that element and I got the distinct impression watching it play out that Villa really didn’t want to turn the ball over with everyone up the pitch. Hull’s best chances toward the end of the game were all from counters that could well have won it. But it’s probably the case the players were more careful than Emery wanted and passed up lower-risk options too often.
Hence the labored feel. We know that with a lot of big bodies in the way, it can be tough to find a way through and there was never the moment of individual magic that’s often the difference. The game needed Villa to take the lead if it was ever going to open up. Alas. Low-block struggles continue, and it comes down to not taking advantage of the rare open passages.
The other bit was Villa’s reluctance to try and play over the top. Suzuki looks to have a remarkable range of passing, but he wasn’t trying to pick out runners much at all. There were a few failed attempts from others, and as the pitch inevitably shrinks against a low-block side, there’s precious little room to run into. And with Villa’s lack of aerial presence, McGinn or Cash trying to rainbow balls in from 30 yards was again perhaps the kind of thing that leads to a clearing header that bypasses most of the side and sends them off to the races.
So, while it was a very tough watch that likely will draw more concern and criticism, it was also a disciplined approach from Villa. That obviously added up to nothing in the net and me yelling at a couple players, but it did keep a clean sheet and stop the rot to a certain extent. Does Gomes exert greater influence if he’s available? Will Manzambi drive and make things happen? We still don’t know what the side will really look like.
And now, of course, we’ll see if Europe once again helps kick-start the league campaign.
Hull 0-0 Aston Villa


Thanks John, observations and comments all valid and on the money. Did I detect and small clue from Unai after the game when quizzed about his selections and the amount of expense left on the bench. He replied “Hemmings has the numbers”. A telling comment that suggests his selections are data driven.
Quite a reasonable method to deploy but leaves me asking the question “how is the data assessed and interpreted”? Take Cash as an example. He played many passes and I’m sure a high percentage were successfully completed. But I just witnessed him passing the ball backwards all game. No risk. All it does is run the clock down which is fine if you’re winning but not so if you’re losing. It can be a positive or a negative when drawing depending on who the opposition is and whether the draw is a point gained or two points dropped.
So the data on offer needs to be weighted for each position and graded accordingly. I’m sure Unai does this because his track record on results is exemplary. We are just not privy to which numbers he rates and which ones are less important. For they guys on the bench, they should be interested to know which numbers matter to the coach and concentrate on methods of delivering them rather than look disinterested as some do.
Goretzka broke down in training. Out until after the international break.
Team news in for Bruges game:
Villa starting XI: Suzuki; Wan-Bissaka, Lindelof, Torres, Maatsen; Kamara, Gomes; McGinn, Buendia, Hemmings; Jackson.
Subs: Bizot, Wright, Mings, Barkley, Ruggeri, Abraham, Garnacho, Mbaye, Bogarde, Alysson
No surprises there. We look a bit light in midfield.
Interesting balance. Would love to see Jackson get off the mark. Course, would love to see anyone score.
Gonna offer a thought here, Plug, so it doesn’t turn into 20 inches on a mobile.
Data is really interesting…I remember Cash saying something about fans getting on him for playing it back, had a wry smile, said he understood but that there was more to it, he wasn’t just doing it because he was being safe or scared.
With Hemmings, is it take-ons, successful dribbles, other things we might not think of, like positions occupied, where he received, what his next pass did…? He’s obviously showing more confidence, a greater willingness to try and make something happen. Gets involved. Could be things like stalled moves, moves that end up recycling…But I’m assuming there are data points beyond the ones we see that get tracked.
So with Garnacho, I wonder whether he’s nothing more than insurance at this point. Emery may be thinking Hemmings is showing what he wants, doesn’t know whether he can make the step-up week after week, so he has a more experienced player to rotate and push him, cover for injury. Just occurred to me, and this would be very interesting psychology, 11-dimensional chess…but what if Emery brought Garnacho in as much to influence and drive Hemmings as anything else? You’d have to think he probably feels pretty good right now keeping Garnacho on the bench.
We’ve seen the kid show some real flashes since he arrived…Emery may well think he’s got his next bargain diamond and bringing him along might well be worth whatever we’re paying Garnacho while Emery sees if there’s anything to salvage. You know he’ll give him the Elliott treatment if he’s not seeing what he wants.
Get in…lovely finish, Pau just cruising through unmolested.
Ooh, Hemmings should’ve had his first there.
And Jackson, Gomes and Buendia combining nicely to restore the lead.
And Jackson with good strong goal. Lovely pass from Pau.
Not bad. SJM, Buendia, Jackson on the scoresheet. Still a bit dodgy at the back, Brugge’s wide men showing lots of pace and guile.
Villa definitely still a work in progress, but lots of promising signs.
3 things:
1. Brilliant first half from Villa. Showing all the progress expected. Gomes doing well and good for Jackson to get off the mark.
2. The referee is a complete idiot. Has he got anything right? The goalkeeper should’ve been sent off twice. The handball and for a high tackle on Jackson’s knee for his goal.
3. Stand up Pau Beckenbauer!
We have goals. We have lift off.
A decent performance overall against a decent opponent. Hemmings should continue to start as long as he earns it, which he has so far. If Garnacho gets the Elliott treatment, I’m betting he doesn’t take it as well as Harvey did. More likely to throw his toys out of the pram and end up training by himself as he begs someone to rescue him.
Torres was terrific today! A couple of good plays on defense and two assists on our three goals. Can’t expect much more.
I can’t wait to see some of the newbies, though. Mbaye and Manzambi in particular could change our attack massively. But how will we line up with them in? McGinn needs to play somewhere because he’s a leader and difference-maker, but he’s really best at RW or in the middle, which are the two positions that M&M will fill. Lots of flexibility with great options off the bench once we get everyone fit and ready.
Exactly. It’s a grind, it’ll take players time to get up to speed, there’ll be dips in form…I won’t mention the other seeming inevitability. We’ll need every one of them.
Missed the 2nd half due to family stuff. One question. Who is that lanky new bloke at the back carving up the opposition at will? Never seen him before.
Yeah, that was a bit of a surprise…had some of his best passes on him, as well, tonight.
Yep, we are up and running. That lanky new bloke at the back showed just what can happen if you decide to move forward with the ball. Made 2 excellent goals.
Seems to me that Brugge do get some ridiculous penalties awarded against Villa. Believe it was March 2025 when we last won a penalty.
Didn’t think Unai’s subs worked particularly well, Barks was looking slow physically and mentally as he got caught in possession more than once. Against any EPL team, he will have even less time. Not meant as criticism, just an observation.
Delighted with the win of course. And the 3 goals. And the 3 points. And the 2 coefficient points.
No, they didn’t. Tammy just isn’t at it, and yeah, Ross wasn’t really any help. But…It’s smart to get them the minutes. Almost cost us, but we got away with it.
The other thing I’ll say is watching players, the little bits about getting used to each other…system itself looks fine, what we’ve come to expect. But. They’re still working on learning the runs players make, tendencies, etc.
Pleasantly snappy give and take first half to watch. Villa stringing together some sharp interplay but just failing at the last moment. No sign of that energy conserving possession and endlessly twiddling round at the back. Maatsen caught my eye with some pugnacious play toward top end of pitch. Barclay doing some resonable holding onto the ball while looking up for the best pass. Interesting bit of narkiness from Jackson. He will either get sent off or mess with the defender’s head.
Done by a poncy long range shot from delap. Buggerbums! Villa a bit dozy.
The first half Villa haven’t come out of the dressing room yet. Don’t know who this stuttering mob are.
Thank god for that
Nice scoring header by Allyson from a wrong foot cross by SJM.
That foul from McAtee really cheesed me off…been a lot of that from them, just throwing himself at Maatsen, injures him, down to 10.
10 man opposition is always a curse for Villa. Can 10 man Villa return the curse to forrest?
Seems the 10 man curse is a double fuck off for us.
Fuck off
Shame Emery felt the need to sub off Jackson. Might have had a sub up our sleeve.
Maybe the midweek game and today were too much. He did take a risk, but he needed to.
It was written in voodoo. A manager who can’t stop beating us and a player who can’t stop scoring against us. One day karma will put things right – but eff knows when.
Very early in our transition. Mbaye definately showed us what might be coming. Manzambe at least got a debut .
Can’t help feeling that Emery was a bit gung ho with the subs. If we don’t win the next game, Emery will obviously get sacked!
Ignoring the final 15 when we were down to ten, it could be that 2 games a week was far too much at this stage. First half was too slow and hesitant, with Ross and Bouba especially not getting us moving.
I didn’t get why he took off Jackson, especially to bring on Tammy who just doesn’t look mobile enough.
We fell apart a bit with the half time subs and then a little bit more with the next double sub, and we only came back to life when Allyson scored. Hope Maatsen isn’t crocked, I hate those tackles, they’re very dangerous.
Coventry midweek is the final opportunity to get more of the new players properly into the squad, before the PL ‘warm-up’ phase has to stop.
Then vs Spurs we’ll have Gomes back and at least Jackson, Mbaye, Manzambi, Garnacho and Hemmings will have had some minutes to get into the swing of things.
Final thought, Bouba needs to sort himself out, he’s been slow in all the games and we need him to step up back to his normal level. I thought him and Buendia were equally terrible today and when them and Barkley combined for Delap’s goal, that was a metaphor for the game.
Back from VP. Very disappointed. Glasner continues to hold the Indian Sign over Unai. First half reasonable, second half poor. We kicked off the second period and didn’t get out of our half until we kicked off again after their goal. We do we have such an aversion to forward movement?
The two half time subs never worked for us. As noted by 656 and Henry, Tammy was not looking a threat up front. Our midfield were poor today. And the CB’s of Mings, Lindeloff and Pau are not blessed with pace which makes us vulnerable at the back.
Happy to see the debut boys Manzambi and Mbaye enter the arena. Great cross from SJM and glancing header from Alysson but just our luck to finish with 10 men for the final 15 minutes after they crocked Maatsen.
Overall, had no complaints about the result. We were on the ropes for the second half but did look like we started playing after levelling. Then Maatsen’s injury choked off the recovery.
Assuming we’ll see THB, Ruggeri and Gomes at Coventry. Meanwhile, I’m not looking at the table.
Following the furore over Citeh’s goal yesterday, I can only imagine what it might be like had Manure suffered Villa’s injustice at the same ground that robbed us of Champions League football. There’s not a fan or pile of shit large enough.
Almost like there’s a double standard or something.
Team news for Coventry game:
Team: Bizot, Wan-Bissaka, Harwood-Bellis, Mings, Ruggeri, Bogarde, Barkley, Mbaye, McGinn, Hemmings, Abraham.
Subs: Suzuki, Cash, Lindelof, Kamara, Buendia, Jackson, Garnacho, Manzambi, Alysson.
Unai giving Emi, Bouba and Lindelof a rest. Otherwise as expected. Perhaps a surprise that Nacho is benched.
First half was first good look at Mbaye, I can see why he needs more time to be ready for Unai’s system. He’s a dancer, not a runner. Likes to play with the ball in front of the defender and, even against Coventry’s defenders, hasn’t been able to get past them. Not a good portent.
Easy enough in the end. Coventry haven’t got much about them. Surprised to see Bizot subbed at HT but he was a statue for their goal.
Being a cup game, the win was all that was needed. We got that so happy days. But if Nacho can’t get on the pitch for a League Cup game…..
Pleased with a win and a few goals. It was our mid table PL backup team of strangers vs their championship strangers.
I thought Mbaye looks useful.
McGinn is brilliant.
Hemmings might end up on the right, with Unai flipping the system.
And maybe last season’s Harvey Elliot experience means there are no free hits for Garnacho, because no “appearances” can afford to be wasted. If he doesn’t look completely ready, he doesn’t play. We can’t afford any Sancho level appearances, it’s top 6 quality or he doesn’t play. Or it could be that Unai wants to use the appearances when the team is settled, so that he gets a true look at him.
On the road again. Away to Bournemouth.
Did anyone else think that Barks never fouled his man for the Cov free kick on the edge of our area that they scored from? He stood on the ball and lost his balance. In doing so he tried to retrieve the ball but was fouled by the Cov man to prevent him from doing so. Rob Jones is such a poor referee. He gave Barks a yellow card for stepping on the ball!!
Maybe he’s just protecting the ball. I mean, the poor thing gets kicked and head-butted all over the field, then a big guy jumps up and stamps down on it. How much is a poor ball to take? 🙂
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YES! That ref was a pregnant fish!
Sorry I’ve been absent, taking care of mom through surgery. All is well. Missed the Coventry match, but glad we won because winning is good, and very glad Tammy found the net. Twice.
Also interesting Barks scored another header. I’m sure I could look it up, but he has a fairly high ratio of headed goals for us, seems like.
Sorry to learn about your mom John. Trust she’s making a full recovery.
Specialist Consultant Unai has also been carrying our major surgery on AVFC. Full recovery not yet achieved but hopefully won’t be long 😀
Team news for Spurs game.
Starting XI: Suzuki, Wan-Bissaka, Mings, Lindelof, Ruggeri, Joao Gomes, Kamara, McGinn, Buendia, Manzambi, Jackson.
Subs: Wright, Cash, Harwood-Bellis, Barkley, Garnacho, Abraham, Mbaye, Bogarde, Hemmings.
COYVB!
Poor little shite 6 spurs robbed! Little Aston Villa unfairly blag a goal out of nowhere after being kept in the game for more than 40 minutes by the new WN1.
DELICIOUS!
Totally fab ball juggling by Jackson to score another goal from nowhere.
WOW WOW WOW! Out of box Buendia blaster for goal 3.
Deeply satisfying win against one of the southern self entitled six. Villa were vey shaky for the first 40 minutes till Manzambi scored but then the Emery process started to grind into action.
Think I’m seeing the seeds of a younger leaner meaner Villa starting to sprout. Manzambi getting up to speed far faster than Rogers did. Jackson has a much higher ceiling than Ollie had. Whatever Ollie had was down to hard work and professional application. Jackson much faster with more natural ability.
Veteran Mings gave us aerial superiority until he dozed off in the last second to give spurts a nonsense second goal. Veteren Iceman was arch KISS safety first security. Buendia my POTM just for being a ratting nuisance everywhere and THAT classic long range upper far corner of the net goal.
Gosh, that was a long waffle!
A good one, though. Just saw the highlights, delighted to see the new boys and Emi on the scoresheet.
Possibly neither manager will be overjoyed at the end. Unai didn’t look too happy at the handshake (doubly pissed at his yellow card).
You can see what they’re trying to build but there are still drops in quality and application during pockets of the game.
All the fouls at the end were annoying but understandable when we were just trying to play for time.
Hopefully they find some use for the 3 week break, I don’t think there are so many that are away with their teams
Oh joy of joys. One of Laaandan’s entitled six has been put to the sword. Out the way Spurs, we’re taking the 3 points. My weekend is complete happiness and satisfaction.
That’s 4 points from the first 5 games. We’re ahead of last season at this stage.
By HT I felt we had done a smash and grab on them. Suzuki was brilliant, truly the WN1. And Manzambi nicked one at the other end to piss them off.
When Jacko smacked home the second, a win looked on the cards. Then Emi sent a missile into the top bins to bury them. Villa are up and running.
After Emi’s missile, it was all about keeping a clean sheet for the last 10 minutes. During this period we witnessed some excellent game management as the opposition lost heart. Unfortunately, we do still have a fault. Our tackling is non existent at times. Out on our left flank we let their guy win a tackle against 2 of our guys whilst he was lying on the turf. The cross came in and the clean sheet disappeared. Emery was livid.
We then lost the ball in a few dangerous places and encouraged them to attack. Unai was furious. The 2nd Spurs goal fortunately didn’t come any earlier otherwise it would have become squeaky bum time.
Six summer acquisitions in the starting line up. Augers well for the coming season. As for De Zerbi, he’s got some work to do with his half a billion recruits.
Suzuki was my MOM. But Mings won everything in the air except the last cross. Buendia hit a beauty. Manzambi is only 20 years old. Lindelof had a great game. Thought Ruggeri looked slow against the pace he was facing but grew into the game during the second period.
Nice to have Gomes available again. Things are looking up guys.
A word on Jacko. He’s a better footballer than Ollie. He’s a better striker than Ollie. He doesn’t run as much as Ollie but he does have express pace. An excellent replacement.
I thought that Ruggeri was very strong at times.
So UEFA are now concerned about the amount of money spent on transfers by EPL teams amounting to more than the other big 5 European leagues combined.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c639merx84jno
They should be. The trend for years has been allowed to favour the big guns instead of introducing a system that levels the playing field for everyone. It’s not rocket science. Bring in a wage cap that everyone can meet in the main leagues and exempt those from the lesser leagues. We might then one day see Steau Bucharest or Red Start Belgrade win the Champions League again.
Also agree with you here. A salary cap is long overdue. An interesting challenge as the PL can rightly say their product and marketing have simply been superior hence greater TV revenue, so I wonder how it would get negotiated. But it’s the only sane approach.
News breaking that Citeh have been found guilty on the majority of charges against them. Punishment not yet decided. Citeh expected to appeal. About time we had a decision on this matter, it’s well overdue.
Thoughts turning to what might be appropriate punishment for Citeh. Obviously a fine will have zero effect. Citeh maintain they are owned by Sheik Mansoor’s private company. Everyone knows it’s really a sovereign wealth fund. Forget this route.
Demotion should be a minimum. If it’s via a points deduction, the points deducted must be large enough to ensure they finish 20th in the table. This route would mean no Champions League for 2 years. UEFA may also impose a ban on them.
Stripping them of titles. Nothing new taking this route. Olympic athletes have had their medals taken away after the event where they have been found to gain a sporting advantage.
Clubs affected by Citeh’s cheating should have a solid case for damages against them. Relatively straightforward to assess the lost income values.
Yep, all very interesting and don’t disagree they have to go down, have titles stripped and pay damages.
So, after more travels (and another stint out to welcome grandchild #3 next week), I’ve finally caught up and gotten something fresh posted.