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Sunderland Debacle and Monchi Out

Posted by John Clark | Sep 24, 2025 | AVL Blog, Match Reviews | 38

Sunderland Debacle and Monchi Out

So, didn’t get to see this one and I’m glad. When I heard we’d actually scored I was just waiting for the other shoe to drop and it did. I’d have been beside myself.

Monchi subsequently replaced.

As I noted elsewhere, I’m not surprised NSWE started there. Touted replacement has a very reasonable CV, no idea if he’ll do any better. But where we’ve fallen short is the so-called value buys. There’s no one with an office at Villa Park who hasn’t known about the money down to the penny. NSWE wouldn’t be wealthy men if they’ve been surprised by the rules or consequences. And everyone had to have been very well aware that the Rashford-Asensio gamble only paid off if we’d gotten back to the Champions League. We didn’t so it didn’t.

Which means that some of these players players needed to come through. Now, to be fair, some of it may have been tough. Barrenechea and Iling-Jr were part of the Luiz package, and the Luiz sale was obviously not conducted on our terms. Onana, big money, and injuries. Right kind of player, but maybe not well researched. Or, the kinds of injuries you’re willing to take a punt on in football.

Garcia and Ned. No idea what’s happened to Garcia and for whatever reason, Ned didn’t seem to fit the bill. Malen has been a mystery. Guessand, too early to tell. Maatsen? A lot to like going forward and maybe we should just make him the starter, though without more cover in front on either flank, Cash could be the reason Maatsen’s defensive liabilities are too much to absorb.

But the crux of it is that a lot of these players haven’t seemed to fit the PL profile. Not quite strong or fast enough, in the end, not quite willing or able to contest the length of the pitch. As I’ve mentioned before, seems like Deano has still done a better job finding value than anyone after.

So we certainly haven’t been as astute as some teams around us, bottom line, and don’t have the revenue base to buy and reject more established names like the entrenched CL contenders. We haven’t been able to find an Eze, and have limped along with the Baileys instead.

There are lots of things that aren’t Monchi’s fault, of course. Attitude, application. System. Injuries. Managers don’t really have control over injuries unless is it’s training and recovery or overwork. Emery’s system has worked before, and 4-2-3-1 is hardly controversial. We’ve certainly played faster and more aggressively under him, so I don’t think he’s looking for plodding.

Has he been too quick to write players off? Too cautious? Maybe? Dunno.

It seems clear, though, that we just haven’t been able to spend as well as some others, but even then, it’s not like they’re firm top-four sides, either. There’s a limit and they usually lose those players after two-to-four years. No one’s really forced themselves into our side besides Rogers and Tielemans. We’re all sort of saying, “Well, might as well try this…”

Now it doesn’t mean that Emery’s been flawless. I take a bit less issue with certain decisions than maybe some others do. I don’t know if sitting Ollie for Rashford was a great idea, for example, likewise cutting Malen out of the CL squad. I could say that if Rashford had done more and we’d been back in the CL, then maybe he’d have stayed and we could’ve sold Ollie. Or simply had two strikers. Rashford probably should’ve just been left out wide in my opinion, for example.

At the same time, Emery seems to have decided Torres’ lack of pace and physicality is a liability overall.

Maybe the players we have indicate more of a 4-3-3, though Emery’s application is pretty fluid. Maybe it’s a little too fluid and nuanced for some players. We often move into 3-5-2 (or 3-5-1-1) for example, though it’s not the default system. And maybe right now, we don’t have the right players available to play 4-3-3 well.

Anyway, I can see Ollie having some feelings. And Malen, too, though he hasn’t done much with the rare starts to suggest he’s more than an impact sub so far. Sort of struggling to see who else could arguably feel hard done by. Maybe Maatsen, and certainly not Martinez.

But I do think more effort is a minimum. They are still getting paid, they are still starting, they do have a European match coming up. They need to get their heads on straight and knuckle down. If outside observers can stop pointing to moves that didn’t come off, stop saying we aren’t trying hard enough, stop thinking we play like we’re feeling sorry for ourselves, then I start to point more fingers at Unai.

He’s worked miracles, and at the same time, most everyone does have an expiration date. The circumstances beyond his and the players’ control, though, are simply tests of character. I’ve seen nothing to suggest Emery’s thrown in the towel, and he keeps trying things. I don’t think he’s in over his head or should be in danger unless it gets really catastrophic, and I’m not going to be pleased if players he got into the Champions League have downed tools over finances or moves that didn’t come off. His record and the context suggest he isn’t the problem.

However I feel, though, it’s all starting to get a bit more interesting than I’d like.

Over to you.

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38 Comments

  1. PDXVillan
    PDXVillan on 24.09.2025 at 6:49 pm

    An accurate assessment, I think. Villa are buying in the bargain-basement by necessity. They’ve found a couple of great bargains—Thielemans, Kamara, and Rogers—but you have to be a genius to find these players regularly. And then you have to persuade them that the Villa experiment is right for them. More and more teams are noticing and emulating the success of not only Villa but Brighton, Palace, and Bournemouth (for example), making the competition for the most promising young stars more difficult. We’ll see whether Olabe can find a few diamonds who can provide the magic we are missing.

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    • JC
      JC on 24.09.2025 at 8:54 pm

      I guess I should add that it’s maybe a bit more nuanced than it seemed initially. One year left on contract, heavy involvement with a small side in trouble, and a very stressful summer. Might all add up to ‘I need a change’. Don’t know that he’s ever stayed anywhere particularly long.

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    • Jvillan
      Jvillan on 24.09.2025 at 10:43 pm

      The Brighton owners have a side in Belgium who I think won the league last season, his ownergamble by numbers is working

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  2. Jvillan
    Jvillan on 24.09.2025 at 10:42 pm

    The ref that disallowed rogers goal on final day of season is back on Sunday as 4th official ,sure he will get a warm welcome from unai and team plus fans

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  3. Plug
    Plug on 25.09.2025 at 9:32 am

    Missed the last game and will miss Bologna and Fulham games too as I’m on the road. With regards to Monchi and the support team, he’s been the fall guy for now. Others may follow. Calvo has to find lots of money and he’s up against it. No UCL, no Carabao, new sponsorship required for next season and with more than £2 million per league place, if we end the season 6 places lower, another £15 million is lost.

    Unai knows all this and it may affect his decisions. I can see another player sale required in January if things don’t dramatically change. Interesting times as already mentioned above. UTV.

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  4. Jvillan
    Jvillan on 25.09.2025 at 7:39 pm

    We are playing bologna tonight ,really needing a performance a win,why no martinez elliot sancho watkins,not a bit wonder villa park is so empty

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  5. Jvillan
    Jvillan on 25.09.2025 at 7:44 pm

    I am not frem but emery team tonight s ares the life out of me,beundi might be fantastic but far bigger chance he will be woeful, playing Bailey out of form certainly didn’t work,dropping watkins for another european match madness
    Has emery lots the plot,2 hours will tell the tale

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  6. Jvillan
    Jvillan on 25.09.2025 at 7:48 pm

    Martinez has small injury,not serious supposedly,

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  7. JC
    JC on 25.09.2025 at 8:23 pm

    Happy to see SJM tuck that away. Malen and Guessand could’ve done better with theirs.

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  8. JC
    JC on 25.09.2025 at 8:52 pm

    There was a decent stretch after the goal where we could’ve put it away. But players just aren’t at it. Don’t think Rogers could play any worse, Malen not far behind.

    So we see what comes next. Maybe a raft of changes given the importance of the weekend fixture. Whatever it is, we need to score again.

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    • henrydouble
      henrydouble on 25.09.2025 at 9:00 pm

      Rogers literally can’t control a football. What on earth has happened? It’s like when Gabby was absolutely gassed and MON refused to sub him.

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  9. JC
    JC on 25.09.2025 at 8:54 pm

    Side note, I can verify that Jvillan is not Frem.

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    • jbd656
      jbd656 on 25.09.2025 at 8:58 pm

      PHEW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • henrydouble
      henrydouble on 25.09.2025 at 8:59 pm

      Haha. Hurrah

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  10. henrydouble
    henrydouble on 25.09.2025 at 8:59 pm

    Cracking touch and finish from Ginny. He’s not an ideal captain but he always gives 100%.

    I’m about as impressed with Bologna as I was with Sunderland, Brentford and the rest before…but you can only play what’s in front of you. I hope the club pays attention to the attendance and sorts out their pricing.

    Better touches from Guessand Melon and Rogers and it could be 3-0, so we have looked marginally more coordinated in attack. Hopefully a few players find goals and confidence in the second half.

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  11. Jvillan
    Jvillan on 25.09.2025 at 9:06 pm

    1 up,non too convincing, beundi rogers and guissand very poor so far,malen has been unlucky with chances so far

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  12. jbd656
    jbd656 on 25.09.2025 at 9:29 pm

    Oh Ollie! Where is Dougie when we need him.

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    • jbd656
      jbd656 on 25.09.2025 at 9:30 pm

      Please never take a pen ever again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  13. jbd656
    jbd656 on 25.09.2025 at 9:33 pm

    That miss has really screwed us up.

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  14. Jvillan
    Jvillan on 25.09.2025 at 9:36 pm

    This is horrific, 35m for elliot and 75mins in not on,,digne on for matasen
    Apart from our offside working tonight, nothing else is

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  15. Jvillan
    Jvillan on 25.09.2025 at 9:59 pm

    Bizot with great safe to get win
    Bizot konsa torres kamara mcginn guissand cash matasen malen where decent to ok
    Rogers beundi Watkins digne all horrific
    Sancho looked dangerous
    Emery another shocker for me ,team selection and use of subs,especially non use of elliot

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    • JC
      JC on 25.09.2025 at 10:02 pm

      Sometimes I think we’re watching different games, JV

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      • Jvillan
        Jvillan on 25.09.2025 at 10:08 pm

        The one I was watching was horrible, we were OK 1st half but 2nd bologna were better side ,we have such a low bar to compare to this season

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        • JC
          JC on 25.09.2025 at 10:11 pm

          Oh, it was horrible as a match and as a team performance, I’m just seeing some individual performances differently.

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  16. JC
    JC on 25.09.2025 at 10:10 pm

    For me, atrocious almost all round, though Torres and Konsa looked decent enough, Pau especially.

    I thought Buendia was fine. Kamara was good in places, then in others not so much. Thought Malen and Rogers had the worst nights overall, though Rogers wins that by some distance. Ollie’s miss is up there with some of the worst spot kicks you’ll see.

    Having missed a couple games, what I saw tonight is that at various junctures, it’s like at least half the side has completely forgotten how to play football. Bad touches, bad decisions, bad passes, lightweight in challenges (bar a couple).

    I have no idea how you manage that. It actually crossed my mind that Rogers could only be that poor on purpose.

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    • Jvillan
      Jvillan on 25.09.2025 at 10:19 pm

      Good points but disagree on beundi completely too lightweight didn’t create one pass chance even his shot was miles wide,malen will give him some leeway he hasn’t played many minutes since he came to villa so he is rusty,Rogers for me he’s like most young players goes through bad spells,palmer at chelsea is on one,
      Kamara had no outlet for ball,
      Emery set up is wrong 2 in midfield is not enough
      Martin known just after saying bologna had 26 crosses miracle we won

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    • henrydouble
      henrydouble on 25.09.2025 at 10:56 pm

      I’m generally I saw it the same, more or less everyone had good and bad passages of play. Guessand is starting to scare me. €30mil. As well as Monchi did at Sevilla, his time at Roma (with Luis Enrique) was a very mixed bag. At this rate Guessand will have found his feet just in time for the Afcon (if he makes their squad).

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      • henrydouble
        henrydouble on 25.09.2025 at 11:00 pm

        My mistake on monchi at Roma, it wasn’t Luis Enrique at all 😅

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        • Jvillan
          Jvillan on 25.09.2025 at 11:11 pm

          Monchi only signed players emery let him,it’s possible emery has too much control

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          • henrydouble
            henrydouble on 26.09.2025 at 8:27 am

            I’ve definitely thought something similar. It is not good if everything has to go through Emery. And I’ve wondered if it contributes to Unai’s tactical burnout, because he’s working until midnight on non-football issues.

            It was the same with MON and bit us badly. I also think you need dissenting voices to stimulate development. Who knows if Emery’s team gives him that…

  17. Jvillan
    Jvillan on 25.09.2025 at 10:11 pm

    Konsa just a brilliant interview after match on tnt

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    • henrydouble
      henrydouble on 25.09.2025 at 10:51 pm

      Yeah nice to see they’re at least feeling what we are seeing

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  18. henrydouble
    henrydouble on 25.09.2025 at 10:50 pm

    Wow that was an interesting game. Rogers is just a complete mystery. We can’t have him as our Plan A, in this form, and expect to achieve anything. Losing the ball in every situation, 41% pass completion…

    The penalty from Watkins…yikes

    Still lack a ball carrier while Rogers and Watkins are AWOL.

    And despite all that, I think we were the better team.

    I hope Fulham have a big night on Saturday evening, sampling all the late night delights of Broad Street. They might’ve been our fair godmother in recent times, but their under-12s would give our lot a game off the back of what will be a 3 day turnaround for us.

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    • JC
      JC on 26.09.2025 at 2:53 pm

      The ball-carrier thing is a biggie. Kind of hard to overstate its importance to us breaking the press and transitioning.

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  19. Plug
    Plug on 26.09.2025 at 8:23 am

    A win. Two coefficient points, 3 table points. By all accounts we made hard work of it. Only 31k in the stadium reflects the prices and level of entertainment on offer. Expect Watkins to fire soon.

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  20. Jvillan
    Jvillan on 26.09.2025 at 2:26 pm

    Jc
    What match was anyone watching last night,listened to a few pod casts last night ,seemed everyone opinions were different think it was only konsa and pau met with praise all round
    Thought konsa interview was really good he has become captain material, mcginns was more honest both with tnt and mcinnally and villa tv,emery I was more confused about
    As one podcast er said 4 matches 3 draws 1 win,excluding penalty loss it’s slightly positive
    If we can get some goals into our forward players it will help massively, and maybe have our bad run over early

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    • JC
      JC on 26.09.2025 at 2:50 pm

      Ha…I think we all have our opinions and watch matches through those lenses. I try to stay ‘objective’, but it’s much easier as a neutral than when watching your own team.

      But yeah, we know there’s more in the side than we’re seeing so it should get better and I’d thought about last season’s bad run, which McGinn also brought up.

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  21. JC
    JC on 27.09.2025 at 12:05 am

    Fresh page up…longish one, repeating myself in places, but what can you do.

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